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Yahoo! like America

Wednesday, April 25th, 2007

This is a story I’ve wanted to tell for quite a while; I think now would be an appropriate time. Please pay very close attention to detail in this post, because I wouldn’t want you to miss out on any irony. This is not a rant, nor an overdue complaint. This is simply a metaphor of Yahoo! through my experience being paralleled to America. Yes, The United States, of America. This parallel tale was also inspired and co-thought by a good friend of mine.

Arriving to Graceland

First off, let’s pretend. Some say America is the land of opportunity. She is the place to be. It’s what some regard to as Graceland. She is America, the beautiful, the great. Everyone wants to come to America because this is where everything is at. A world leader in various aspects. This is not to say other countries are not great. But work with me here. We’re talking about America, a place that receives most of the attention.

Properties like States

Just like how America has States, Yahoo! has properties. They can also be referred to as Business Units (BU’s), or groups. Let’s look at a few properties shall we…

Yahoo! Mail

The flagship of America. A place that has represented her country since the early times, New York. The statue of liberty of which represents freedom from desktop email clients. One of the first free web-based email services, and to this day, remains the largest online providers for email.

Then there’s Texas

Smack dab in the middle of the country and by far the largest property (aside from Alaska (more on that later)). Yahoo! Search. Search is migrated into nearly all products of Yahoo!. She is big, and she is everywhere. Everyone has done a Yahoo! search at least once in their life.

Y! Groups like Alaska?

Groups is potentially the largest potential to do something great, but it’s off in a giant chunk of land out where nobody pays attention to. Y! Groups is big, and they have the numbers to prove it. But they can be much bigger. If you’ve used Yahoo! Groups, it’s easy to get lost in threads and often hard to find archived content. Kind of like getting tossed into a big snow blizzard in the land of nothing but Ice.

Flickr, Delicious, Upcoming off in Hawaiian Islands

All three of these properties were acquired. None of them came to be great because they were started by Yahoo!, but they were nonetheless a great steal. Everyone wants to visit Hawaii. It attracts thousands of people every year from all over the world! I even personally use all three services on a daily basis. Nevertheless, any Hawaiian native knows that it’s not truly part of the states, however they’re still governed by the rules of it’s over arching parent across the seas.

YUI in California

California is a great place to be. I love California. Born, raised, and still live in California. This is where I would imagine the presentation platform engineering team to live. Or as most of you know, Yahoo! User Interface (YUI). Life is good in California, and people that work there have their work cut out for them. It’s a prestigious job, and the hard work goes with the territory. They’re a world leader in creating new standards for UI development, and it’s hard to compete against a team that gets paid for a living to come up with one of the most advanced JavaScript platforms in the world. I personally think it’s the best.

And other places too

I could come up with some other parallels, but quite frankly, I think the metaphor is clear. You could say things like Yahoo! Personals might be best described as Las Vegas Nevada, or Yahoo! Pets is like Rhode Island (what, you’ve never heard of Y! Pets?)

Where did I work?

In all seriousness, I worked in Guam. Yeah. Guam. It’s technically a U.S. territory. However we had no idea what was going on outside our island, nor did any property outside ours knew what was going on in our nook. It was the epitome example of being siloed. Anyone who’s familiar with the peanut butter manifesto knows exactly what I’m talking about. The funny (and ironic) thing is that I eventually moved into a new position within Guam after working about a year and a half in the same area, to a new desk that was closer the actual States. The sheer proximity of being closer to the 48 contingent states was more or less better than where I was at. I was actually closer to the window where I could peak out the window and see other properties. Nonetheless, my dream of moving to the real states never became a reality.

And this new place I’ve arrived?

As many of you know, I’ve decided to leave America all together, and accept a job at Google. And everyone knows that Google just leaves the world all alone to do as it wants. Yahoo! can be America - flagship of the Earth. Google has moved onto the moon, and I’m proud to jump on that rocket ship.

17 Responses to “Yahoo! like America”

  1. Robert Otani

    Good one… Mr. Diaz. Alas, it’s hilarious to see an encapsulation of the subject matter behind a “few” after-work beer sessions. Building G stands for Guam. :)

  2. Vincent Chew

    Mainland here I come!

  3. David Singleton

    That’s a very good analogy of Yahoo!, i’m sure i’ve heard it somewhere before. It definately falls in to the ‘humourous but true in a sad kind of way category.

  4. Seth

    Hey! I grew up in Rhode Island. I’ve heard tons about it! Can’t say the same for pets though….

  5. Ian Lloyd

    Excellent! I’m glad you got around to doing this, and it seems so much more appropriate since you departed Guam. I wonder, though, how many people have even heard of Guam, even less where it is? But then that, of course, is the whole point ;-)

  6. Wally Punsapy

    I think every big bulky company (M$, Oracle) resembles a kluge of various components that comprise its grandosity. But like most behemoths, there are select groups and individuals that dispell that notion and are making it better (like the YUI, YDN and Brickhaus folks). Those are the peeps that are making a difference.

    Y! ain’t bad if you don’t let it be. Similarly, if Americans accepted the hodge-podge healthcare and education systems, then they deserve it. It’s up to you to carve your own own destiny, whether it’s flying to the moon or Mars.

    I’m sorry that you lived in a U.S. territory and not in the meat of the action. There are good things that happen here, you just have to look for it such as Travel, Finance, Sports, Maps, Answers, etc.

    My two cents.

  7. Dustin Diaz

    Wally, I mentioned some good things about some properties, and I definitely wouldn’t change in my experience for the world. I knew for a fact there was some awesome places to go in Y!. My destiny just wasn’t at any of them. I left a lot of great friends behind, and half a billion users ain’t nothing that can be denied. They’re obviously doing something right.

  8. Dan Shields

    Lets be honest though, if you Yahoo didn’t want you to be involved with the meat and potatoes of Yahoo, then who the hell are they looking for. Your not going to get much more of a respected and proven developer as yourself. I’m not trying to kiss your butt or anything but I would think most people list you as one of the top 10 Javascript developers out there with people like PPK and Jeremy Keith.

  9. quentin

    Do you mean yahoo! is governed by an idiot ?

    ooops… sorry

  10. nerdabilly

    slightly off-topic, but my wife is from Guam (the real one, not the metaphorical one) and it’s really a great place to visit. Rich culture, great food, nice people, plus all the advantages of being in America without actually being in America. I’d highly recommend visiting it.

    PS. Great blog!

  11. Wally Punsapy

    Yeah, just to follow up, I’m not defending Y! at all. It has its share of problems (not small ones either). I do think the Big G will fit your skills and how you want to harness your abilities best and much better than feature-centric product development of Y! Guam.

    Good luck man! May the force be w/ ya!

  12. A Collins

    I hope YUI is better than that piece-o-crap called Yahoo! Music Player and whatever group you work for is better than Yahoo! Music. Software that crashes on-demand combined with deceptive business practices (can’t upgrade a subscription bought as a gift???) makes me think twice (and thrice) about Yahoo!

  13. Jenny

    So what would Yahoo become when they merge with MSN? The United Nations (UN)? :)

  14. Pauly

    Hi, not relevant to your new job at Google, but good work on that! I came back looking for info on why an old version of your sweet-titles wasn’t working on ie (tool tips appearing far from actual links in ie) and I notice that the tooltips themselves aren’t working on your /sweet-titles page. I think I have the answer I was looking for but thought I’d let you know.
    Cheers!

  15. Anonymous

    At least you didn’t call it Guantanamo. ;)

  16. Pauly

    And in case you’re not sick of sweet titles, or anyone else comes this way looking for a solution, IE reports scroll top and scroll left differently depending on the doc type used, so check for document.documentElement.scrollTop or document.body.scrollTop

  17. abreham

    很高兴看见你的文章

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